Have you ever been to Istanbul? If not, you should go first before buying anything in Istanbul. Istanbul is known for ripping people off. Especially tourists! These are pure junk. Infact, take a trash can lid, remove the handle, take a sharp tool and rub the trash can lid in a circular motion to add grooves to the "potential cymbal,, then drill a hole in the center so you'll have cymbal hole for the stand, then leave it in the rain for a few weeks so it'll get that nice rusted look, and there you have it. An Istanbul like cymbal.

Very articulate and washy when opened. Gives you a chick sound without being too harsh